High Retention Means NOTHING

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I have proof that HR views mean diddly squat

This is a case study of mine over the last few days

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I have over 140,000 views on Youtube for one video and NOT ONE COUNTRY has a retention rate of over 40%.
This leads me to believe that HR views are actually HURTING you lot.
I HAVE NOT boosted views in a few weeks and ALL of my niches are VERY high up the rankings.

I have 2 saturated niches, 1 is Rank 1 Page 1, the other one is Rank 5 Page 1.
This is all from a number of things.

Title - Example: (Bad) Free Keygen, (Good) Free Microsoft Points Keygen, (Best) Free Microsoft Points Keygen [Working July 2013]

Description -
Link then keyword then description.

This belief of putting
GET IT NOW: bit.ly/fake is wrong
It should be
mywebsite/fakekeygen
Microsoft Points Generator (Keyword)
Then a couple of paragraphs

Tags (Use youtube.com/keyword_tool , to take the best tags from the top video ((MAX 10)) and go from there)

Ping the video IMMEDIATELY after posting.
http://www.pingler.com
http://www.pingbomb.com

Ping your blog/site. (If you do NOT have a blog or site the above fails)

Go to Twitter/Facebook or whatever social media you use and post something like
"Hey guys check out my new video, please like and share as it will help me out".

Like and Share your own video. Sounds stupid but it works!
Youtube is all about social signals.

Wait about 20 minutes and search your niche.
i.e Cure Acne > Filter Today > You should be top
Cure Acne > Filter This Week > You should be first page

Now we want all time.
This is the tough bit, depending on the niche you may be quite far down. I have a niche where I started at position 383!
Basically, you have 48 hours (this is how long I have found works during testing) to get as many views, from as many places as humanly possible.

Why you ask?
If you put a video up and it gets 1 view in a week ask yourself "If I was youtube would I think that was important?"
If you video gets 10,000 views in 24 hours. Youtube thinks "Damn, this video is important and it should be ranked accordingly"

Once the initial 48 hours has passed you can use
Video Rank Checker
to determine where you are, after that it's all about sharing social signals, likes, comments and favourites.
But I will go into that another time.

Normally I would not share my findings, but there is plenty out there for everyone.
Even if you do pick the same niche as me, any competition is good competition in my eyes.

Feel free to ask questions, have your say and share your experiences here.

-NUMB3R44
 

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When I ordered HR Views for my first niche video It took about 1-2 weeks to get onto page 1. After getting "real" views from people that actually searched for that niche my video ranked even higher.

Well I think High Retention Views are important to get started properly. I simply don't like to use sites like vagex and enhanceviews. What I usually do is uploading my video, doing optimization regarding title,description,keywords and tags. After that I order HR Views and after that I am usually done. Right now one of my videos is ranked on page 1 rank 2 and page 1 rank 3 on my main keywords :) .
 

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yeah but not many of us can get so many natural views quickly so we buy views...if they bought normal views they will only watch for 2 seconds which will actually hurt rankings so they buy high retention views.

high retention views do not hurt ranking and actually help with ranking and that is a fact and that is why many still use it.

but it is still possible to rank high without buying high retention views.
 

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About the Video Rank Checker, can you provide a link for that? :)
Thank you, really like your post. I never boost my videos with Views I am experimenting with it but thats it! :D

Also, do you think boosting that percentage by simply making a video only 30-40 seconds long? :D

Cheers,
PB3
 

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I see but I don't see how high retention views can HURT rankings?

Because that would just mean your viewers watched your whole video. How can that be a negative thing?
 

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They dont hurt rankings. I think he just wants to say that HR Views are not necessarily required for a good ranking but like PeaceBreaker already mentioned not everyone of us has the opportunity to get enough views from social media thats why we buy those views :)
 

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I agree they can't be a bad thing, but you have some good points. Thank you for your share. ;)
 

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J@bz said:
yeah but not many of us can get so many natural views quickly so we buy views...if they bought normal views they will only watch for 2 seconds which will actually hurt rankings so they buy high retention views.

high retention views do not hurt ranking and actually help with ranking and that is a fact and that is why many still use it.

but it is still possible to rank high without buying high retention views.

That is where youlikehits or addmefast can be very handy in helping boost some views/likes etc


PeaceBreaker3 said:
About the Video Rank Checker, can you provide a link for that? :)
Thank you, really like your post. I never boost my videos with Views I am experimenting with it but thats it! :D

Also, do you think boosting that percentage by simply making a video only 30-40 seconds long? :D

Cheers,
PB3

http://sharesend.com/e8txrvaw
Have not done a virus scan sorry.
Yeh sure, make the video shorter as long as your target gets all the info still.


Dmaster555 said:
I see but I don't see how high retention views can HURT rankings?

Because that would just mean your viewers watched your whole video. How can that be a negative thing?

Yeh sorry, bad wording, sure a person watching the whole video is not a bad thing, but it is not necessary.


DeFactos said:
I agree they can't be a bad thing, but you have some good points. Thank you for your share. ;)

No problems pal.
 

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Sorry my friend your thread statement is invalid.
Yes you can rank without then but if you want a boost then High Retention views are mandatory.

That's the way it is.

-LinX
 

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LinX said:
Sorry my friend your thread statement is invalid.
Yes you can rank without then but if you want a boost then High Retention views are mandatory.

That's the way it is.

-LinX

Not true, I have been tested this for the last week.
HR views are not necessary, a boost in views is necessary but HR is irrelevant
 
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