churn and burn sandboxing by Google
2014-07-21, 07:00 AM,
#1
I've been reading conflicting reports about what Google does to new sites especially when using churn and burn.

Some say they have no issue with new sites, others are saying Google sandboxes new sites for a few weeks, or that they won't rank past a certain page.

Can anyone confirm these reports?

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2014-07-21, 07:24 AM,
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It seems like link velocity is what that triggers this sandbox. The niche in which you are in and the amount of links you are getting have a strong co-relation. This trigger is highly sensitive.... Anything done wrong and this will be triggered.

In my testings, some sites returned back after 30-40 days.. some are still nowhere to be seen.

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2014-07-21, 08:06 AM,
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Meh, it's a hit or miss, it may have happened to someone, doesn't mean it happens to everyone. People are having success with churn n burn still, that's for sure!
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2014-07-21, 08:10 AM,
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(2014-07-21, 08:06 AM)-qwerty- Wrote: Meh, it's a hit or miss, it may have happened to someone, doesn't mean it happens to everyone. People are having success with churn n burn still, that's for sure!

So far I didn't found any site[ranking with C&B] on the niches I am monitoring.

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2014-07-21, 08:26 AM,
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(2014-07-21, 08:10 AM)umerjutt00 Wrote:
(2014-07-21, 08:06 AM)-qwerty- Wrote: Meh, it's a hit or miss, it may have happened to someone, doesn't mean it happens to everyone. People are having success with churn n burn still, that's for sure!

So far I didn't found any site[ranking with C&B] on the niches I am monitoring.

Uh.. I'm not really sure which niches are you into, nor what you mean by C&B... some people think churn&burn is building 1 million links per day and ranking the next day, which is very wrong...
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2014-07-21, 08:35 AM,
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(2014-07-21, 08:26 AM)-qwerty- Wrote:
(2014-07-21, 08:10 AM)umerjutt00 Wrote:
(2014-07-21, 08:06 AM)-qwerty- Wrote: -snip-

What about in relation to Hawk's C&B method?

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2014-07-21, 10:27 AM,
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(2014-07-21, 08:35 AM)ArmyOfOne Wrote:
(2014-07-21, 08:26 AM)-qwerty- Wrote:
(2014-07-21, 08:10 AM)umerjutt00 Wrote:
(2014-07-21, 08:06 AM)-qwerty- Wrote: -snip-

What about in relation to Hawk's C&B method?

Base on what I've read and seen it's awful. Different things work for different people though. CnB is about building as many links as possible as fast as possible, then 2nd Tier for forever. Not hundreds per day then waiting as outlined in Hawk's tutorial in the VIP.

SERLists.com put out a .pdf on churn and burn method and it's very different than what most people are talking about or doing. Seeing as Ron from SERList and his team created it, it's pretty much gospel right now. When someone who helped create the program puts out a guide on a method with it. What people say in the forums doesn't really matter much.

Get in the know, or test yourself. Either way stick to what works.
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2014-07-21, 11:15 AM,
#8
i feel like you need some Contextuals links. Mostly you need some article links you can blast. Those kind can really help your ranking
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2014-07-21, 04:01 PM,
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(2014-07-21, 08:35 AM)ArmyOfOne Wrote:
(2014-07-21, 08:26 AM)-qwerty- Wrote:
(2014-07-21, 08:10 AM)umerjutt00 Wrote:
(2014-07-21, 08:06 AM)-qwerty- Wrote: -snip-

What about in relation to Hawk's C&B method?

I'm not sure what his method is, but if you're gonna do C&B, I wouldn't recommend doing 100% spam, try to build more contextuals, do-follow links, instead of spammy profiles and links.
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2014-07-21, 05:10 PM, (This post was last modified: 2014-07-21, 05:10 PM by Night_Wolf.)
#10
Is not just churn n burn, new algorithm is in place that affects majority if not all new sites, lots of talk around the net:
http://godofseo.co/industry-news/google-...z38690yCBJ
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