YT Instant Ranking vs Legit Ranking
2013-12-03, 07:39 PM, (This post was last modified: 2013-12-03, 08:18 PM by pepeneo.)
#1
We all know that is possible to rank on the first page of yt within minutes.
The question is it worth it?
I have uploaded 1 video for a particular niche aprox 1 week ago, ranked it the legit way on the first page of yt and 1st page 1st pos of google.
2 days ago I saw that 8 videos deranked me in yt all where "uploaded" just a few hours before.
Yesterday I checked once more and my video ranked up to its previous position, from the 8 videos which have deranked me only 2 were on the bottom of the first page, today they were all gone.
The instant ranking works but can't hold its ranks and will be deranked by almoust any video.
The only way you can be on the first page day by day with the instant ranking is if you upload the video again and again + boosting it with views and likes. I doubt it would worth as the boosting isn't cheap

Insta ranking theory
Honestly this isn't something that I tried, tested but its some things i noticed while comparing the insta ranked videos to legit ranked videos
is that you don't need any backlinks, no seo description is requiered

My theory on how they do it.. I might be wrong as I never tested
1 upload the video and unlist it
2 boost video with views/likes
3 add tags
4 add other videos as Favorites related to your niche
5 Like videos with G+ related to your niche
6 list the video and hopefully it will be on the first page

More details about the theory nr 1, 4 and 5
1 upload the video and unlist it
it is impossible that you get 20k views in 1 hr with a listed video, this is why I think that they delist it and boost it while is unlisted
4-5 Favorites and G+
These are other 2 ranking factors but mainly the G+, as we all know google forced upon the YT comunity to use G+ in hopes of taking up the competition with fb which is less and less relevent.
Social signals "g+" do effect google and yt ranking altho it might be more important in yt

Tell me what u think
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2013-12-03, 08:14 PM,
#2
To be honest, HQ thread, and I think that the legit videos is the best way, becz you turn your business into autopilot
I don't understand these points
4 add other videos as Favorites related to your niche
5 Like videos with G+ related to your niche
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2013-12-03, 08:14 PM,
#3
this instant ranking is only good if something is hot, not good for something like pokemon x and y and also gta 5 and simmilar niches, i tried these two ranked but low traffic coming.
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2013-12-03, 08:18 PM,
#4
(2013-12-03, 08:14 PM)mackerone Wrote: To be honest, HQ thread, and I think that the legit videos is the best way, becz you turn your business into autopilot
I don't understand these points
4 add other videos as Favorites related to your niche
5 Like videos with G+ related to your niche
Edited the thread hopefully its more easy to understand
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2013-12-03, 08:26 PM,
#5
I still prefer the legit ranking, as many people said that instant ranking will only be on top not more than 24 hours i which is the very common scenario.
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2013-12-04, 08:12 AM,
#6
I think that thingy you said about G+ makes sense, I got my vid ranked pretty well thanks to a lot of G+ sharing I guess was coz of that as that niche is kinda saturated, I will do the same with another niche and will see how it goes but yeah G+ is an important factor right naw


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2013-12-04, 09:40 AM,
#7
At this point, i think SEO is the way to go. Youtube has way too many flaggers at this point.
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2013-12-04, 10:21 AM,
#8
(2013-12-04, 09:40 AM)unknownman Wrote: At this point, i think SEO is the way to go. Youtube has way too many flaggers at this point.

That's so true, I just had a video with 120 k views removed..like..seriously ? To make things even worse, it was ranked on google for 3 main keywords on #1/2
-_- my life.
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2013-12-07, 05:57 AM, (This post was last modified: 2013-12-07, 06:21 AM by ara925.)
#9
Umm...what do you mean like videos related to your niche,like someone elses video or my video from diffrent google accounts? sorry,im a bitt confused

You mean that +1 thing or something else
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2013-12-08, 11:54 PM,
#10
thats goold sandbox.......
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