Message To All Elites Users: Why You Should Learn Non Incent [Here's Why]
2018-02-28, 05:11 PM,
#1
Hello Elites,

Update: Elites now has a new forum that covers non incentive CPA marketing here: https://www.cpaelites.com/Forum-Non-Ince...opshipping

This thread is not here to scare anyone, it's to educate those that need educating about how to secure their future. I planned on writing this the other day but life has been hectic, it's been an insane 12 months due to having a wonderful baby boy and other life changes. It's my: Birthday today so I have limited time on my hands today but due to reading threads such as this: Is This The End Of Hack Niches In SEO? - I felt a little urged to write this up because some things need to be said.

I would guesstimate 90+ % of Elites users focus on incentive CPA, and why not right because lets face it incent comes with a (quick money) type label attached with it. The reality however is things change. First it was USA pins and then France with around 5/7 year gaps, next it will be other high tier countries and eventually I'm afraid to say CPI will take a bit too.

Understand something guys... phone companies will only take shit for so long, and then developers will be banned form listing their games/apps and using CPI models/pins. That is the reality guys , after the pins/CPI what are we left with credit forms lol? I mean you have email submits of course and other verticals but none that will convert like right now that's my point. 

Besides pins/CPI what other ways will be left to take subscriptions/payments, I can't really see anything else unless a network can tell me otherwise?

Moving on... Incent CPA is NOT the only way to make money though guys, you do have non incent CPA too. And this is they very reason I blasted out a recent survey to you guys and frankly I was overwhelmed by how many responded saying they wanted to learn about making money with the non incent. That's fine but I'm afraid it's one thing saying it, and another thing actually making the effort and getting it done.

I see some users that answered to the recent survey have taken the initiative and shared some guides on here, that's good, but you should all start researching and discussing it on here, don't be left behind because like with bitcoins you may be kicking yourself for it. There's plenty of CPA blogs and information to learn about it on too, start discussing it and communicate any questions / problems you may face and those that have experience will answer and help / communicate back.

I may end up introducing a new forum on here targeted towards non incent CPA, I'll simply move all the existing discussions into it. All I will say to you is this... you can only help yourself, I can only help you so much, look to the future don't live in the present because you may live to regret that.

Don't be one of those that leaves all their eggs in one basket, because when shit hits the fan you will be left pissing in the wind, and we all know how that ends up right!

PS

If you like the idea of the non incent CPA forum on here drop a post and let me know!

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Hawk
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2018-02-28, 05:37 PM,
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So HawkEye, you think that "CPA incentive offers" are dying?
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2018-02-28, 05:44 PM,
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(2018-02-28, 05:37 PM)Mix2003_2012 Wrote: So HawkEye, you think that "CPA incentive offers" are dying?

It will come to a point where advertisers will say no more, it's happened already with FR recently, the rest will follow. According to my research there was around 5/7 years between USA banning pins and then France. Obviously other countries will follow and then everything tends to rely on the most effective models such as CPI. I feel with the cost per install via games/apps that will die out yes, you need to understand things only stay under the radar for so long before it comes to light. Look what happened with the phone networks such as Orange etc. business's/advertisers will only take so much before the plug is pulled.
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2018-02-28, 05:45 PM,
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(2018-02-28, 05:44 PM)HawkEye Wrote:
(2018-02-28, 05:37 PM)Mix2003_2012 Wrote: So HawkEye, you think that "CPA incentive offers" are dying?

It will come to a point where advertisers will say no more, it's happened already with FR recently, the rest will follow. According to my research there was around 5/7 years between USA banning pins and then France. Obviously other countries will follow and then everything tends to rely on the most effective models such as CPI. I feel with the cost per install via games/apps that will die out yes, you need to understand things only stay under the radar for so long before it comes to light. Look what happened with the phone networks such as Orange etc. business's/advertisers will only take so much before the plug is pulled.

Can I ask you why you wrote (about 2 months ago) that FR pins will be back?
This thread have really bad news Confused
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2018-02-28, 05:47 PM,
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(2018-02-28, 05:45 PM)Mix2003_2012 Wrote:
(2018-02-28, 05:44 PM)HawkEye Wrote:
(2018-02-28, 05:37 PM)Mix2003_2012 Wrote: So HawkEye, you think that "CPA incentive offers" are dying?

It will come to a point where advertisers will say no more, it's happened already with FR recently, the rest will follow. According to my research there was around 5/7 years between USA banning pins and then France. Obviously other countries will follow and then everything tends to rely on the most effective models such as CPI. I feel with the cost per install via games/apps that will die out yes, you need to understand things only stay under the radar for so long before it comes to light. Look what happened with the phone networks such as Orange etc. business's/advertisers will only take so much before the plug is pulled.

Can I ask you why you wrote (about 2 months ago) that FR pins will be back?
This thread have really bad news Confused

I had one person telling me one thing, then someone else something else. I have concluded it won't come back.
Worst still the other tier countries will follow too, it will happen.
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Mix2003_2012(2018-02-28 05:48 PM) 
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2018-02-28, 05:52 PM,
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(2018-02-28, 05:47 PM)HawkEye Wrote:
(2018-02-28, 05:45 PM)Mix2003_2012 Wrote:
(2018-02-28, 05:44 PM)HawkEye Wrote:
(2018-02-28, 05:37 PM)Mix2003_2012 Wrote: So HawkEye, you think that "CPA incentive offers" are dying?

It will come to a point where advertisers will say no more, it's happened already with FR recently, the rest will follow. According to my research there was around 5/7 years between USA banning pins and then France. Obviously other countries will follow and then everything tends to rely on the most effective models such as CPI. I feel with the cost per install via games/apps that will die out yes, you need to understand things only stay under the radar for so long before it comes to light. Look what happened with the phone networks such as Orange etc. business's/advertisers will only take so much before the plug is pulled.

Can I ask you why you wrote (about 2 months ago) that FR pins will be back?
This thread have really bad news Confused

I had one person telling me one thing, then someone else something else. I have concluded it won't come back.
Worst still the other tier countries will follow too, it will happen.
We are in the right way: IT, PT, FR, ES, NL, AU, I think that the future will be CC offers, that is not really bad, better than nothing.
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2018-02-28, 05:54 PM,
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(2018-02-28, 05:52 PM)Mix2003_2012 Wrote:
(2018-02-28, 05:47 PM)HawkEye Wrote:
(2018-02-28, 05:45 PM)Mix2003_2012 Wrote:
(2018-02-28, 05:44 PM)HawkEye Wrote:
(2018-02-28, 05:37 PM)Mix2003_2012 Wrote: So HawkEye, you think that "CPA incentive offers" are dying?

It will come to a point where advertisers will say no more, it's happened already with FR recently, the rest will follow. According to my research there was around 5/7 years between USA banning pins and then France. Obviously other countries will follow and then everything tends to rely on the most effective models such as CPI. I feel with the cost per install via games/apps that will die out yes, you need to understand things only stay under the radar for so long before it comes to light. Look what happened with the phone networks such as Orange etc. business's/advertisers will only take so much before the plug is pulled.

Can I ask you why you wrote (about 2 months ago) that FR pins will be back?
This thread have really bad news Confused

I had one person telling me one thing, then someone else something else. I have concluded it won't come back.
Worst still the other tier countries will follow too, it will happen.
We are in the right way: IT, PT, FR, ES, NL, AU, I think that the future will be CC offers, that is not really bad, better than nothing.

Not bad, but not great. For those that are hitting the big digits whom are reliant of their current $$$ they will be the ones to take the hits. This is the point of the thread buddy, I'm just trying to let everyone know there are other ways to make money with CPA, it's silly to rely on one model.
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Mix2003_2012(2018-02-28 05:57 PM) 
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2018-02-28, 06:05 PM,
#8
This is a very sad news for the ones who are into blackhat. I am also thinking the same as you that incentive offers won't be available in future on the CPA Networks.
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2018-02-28, 06:27 PM,
#9
Looks like we should start learning non incent now! Thank you for the information HawkEye.
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2018-02-28, 06:55 PM,
#10
The forum taught me about CPA and I am sure this forum will help me to learn Non Incentive CPA too, looking forward to learn about it.

Thanks Admin!
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