How does youtube detect invalid views?
2014-05-29, 10:46 PM,
#1
For example, hitleap every person using hitleap has a different IP. How does YouTube detect that the views are invalid and then it gets reset or stuck on 301 views.

I do not only use hitleap, i use a bunch of other tools aswell. But i am facing the same problem all the time.

Will there be a fix for this soon?
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2014-05-29, 11:06 PM,
#2
Same view length for all the views
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2014-05-29, 11:09 PM,
#3
It is possible to track the referrer up to 2 (!) visits back meaning that you have to do a double meta refresh (have no idea how to do it thought) to completely hide your traffic.

Also YT is owned by google, and google has a loooot of products widely used that can help in tracing (although i doubt it uses all that data.)
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2014-05-29, 11:23 PM,
#4
YouTube tracks the referrer, the user-agent, the retention of views and the amount of views over periods of time.
For example when you have a lot of credits and get 50000 views in an hour and then the credit balance is 0 YouTube recognizes that.

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2014-05-30, 10:36 AM,
#5
so to pump up my videos i need to
1.pump up my videos slowly
2. change the user agent
3. let it play for a random time (whole video/half the video/a quick in and out)
4. search thru a couple of pages before i click my video
5. run my veiws thru hma to change my i.p
will that do the trick
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2014-05-30, 10:52 AM,
#6
It's the referrer. YouTube will recognize the views are coming from hit leap domain and hence will verify it. :)

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2014-05-30, 04:24 PM,
#7
so if i fake my referrer going to google, search keyword site:youtube, then loop thru the pages until i find mine , i should be safe?
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2014-05-30, 04:31 PM,
#8
(2014-05-29, 11:06 PM)Julien Wrote: Same view length for all the views
Incorrect.

(2014-05-29, 11:09 PM)Heraclitus Wrote: It is possible to track the referrer up to 2 (!) visits back meaning that you have to do a double meta refresh (have no idea how to do it thought) to completely hide your traffic.

Also YT is owned by google, and google has a loooot of products widely used that can help in tracing (although i doubt it uses all that data.)
Closer, but also incorrect.
(2014-05-29, 11:23 PM)SEO Wrote: YouTube tracks the referrer, the user-agent, the retention of views and the amount of views over periods of time.
For example when you have a lot of credits and get 50000 views in an hour and then the credit balance is 0 YouTube recognizes that.
You made a view bot that uses proxies and resell views, I'm going to leave you be and not argue.
The referrer can no longer be spoofed, but it takes 5 minutes and $10 buy and configure a new domain.
Retention can be changed using a range of numbers for len.
(2014-05-30, 10:52 AM)Superhero99 Wrote: It's the referrer. YouTube will recognize the views are coming from hit leap domain and hence will verify it. :)
Wrong.
(2014-05-30, 04:24 PM)stanf Wrote: so if i fake my referrer going to google, search keyword site:youtube, then loop thru the pages until i find mine , i should be safe?

Google owns YouTube, therefore it won't really matter.

That'll get you keyword traffic and rank you higher, just like Vagex does (or used to, anyway).
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2014-05-30, 05:45 PM,
#9
(2014-05-30, 04:31 PM)Authority+ Wrote:
(2014-05-29, 11:06 PM)Julien Wrote: Same view length for all the views
Incorrect.

(2014-05-29, 11:09 PM)Heraclitus Wrote: It is possible to track the referrer up to 2 (!) visits back meaning that you have to do a double meta refresh (have no idea how to do it thought) to completely hide your traffic.

Also YT is owned by google, and google has a loooot of products widely used that can help in tracing (although i doubt it uses all that data.)
Closer, but also incorrect.
(2014-05-29, 11:23 PM)SEO Wrote: YouTube tracks the referrer, the user-agent, the retention of views and the amount of views over periods of time.
For example when you have a lot of credits and get 50000 views in an hour and then the credit balance is 0 YouTube recognizes that.
You made a view bot that uses proxies and resell views, I'm going to leave you be and not argue.
The referrer can no longer be spoofed, but it takes 5 minutes and $10 buy and configure a new domain.
Retention can be changed using a range of numbers for len.
(2014-05-30, 10:52 AM)Superhero99 Wrote: It's the referrer. YouTube will recognize the views are coming from hit leap domain and hence will verify it. :)
Wrong.
(2014-05-30, 04:24 PM)stanf Wrote: so if i fake my referrer going to google, search keyword site:youtube, then loop thru the pages until i find mine , i should be safe?

Google owns YouTube, therefore it won't really matter.

That'll get you keyword traffic and rank you higher, just like Vagex does (or used to, anyway).


If everyone here is wrong will you mind explaining the problem then? Thanks
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2014-05-30, 06:47 PM,
#10
(2014-05-29, 10:46 PM)CPAUSD Wrote: How does YouTube detect that the views are invalid and then it gets reset or stuck on 301 views.

I would say, YouTube (Google) is using these tools - like Hitleap, SYV, U2bviews etc. - too. They are sniffing the traffic of every tool, extracting the video URL and monitoring those videos.

If not, I would do so...

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